From rita at isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de Sun Mar 1 05:19:47 2009 From: rita at isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (Rita Freudenberg) Date: Sun Mar 1 05:20:15 2009 Subject: [Squeakland] painting with Etoys Message-ID: <9451E329-5DA4-4D18-BCA3-B4C40F5B76FF@isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de> Hi all, I'm just reading a thread on the sugar labs mailing list about paint programs on the XO. Caroline Meeks is requesting a tool like Kid Pix or Tux Paint on the XO, based on her experiences on a Preschool in Boston. That reminds me of a discussion about lowering the threshold into Etoys by using it as a painting tool. I think, Yoshiki answered a question about that. I'm not sure on which mailing list this discussion took place. But nevertheless I think it is a very interesting thought to have an Etoys version that maybe starts with the paint tool open? I have seen children drawing happily with Etoys and even remember Bert doing a nice project for our kids: he just put a holder on the screen and prepared an animation script. The kids could draw whatever they wanted and put their drawings in the holder, thus changing the animation. They did that on my computer, but each of them had it's own flap, where they stored their drawings. They did that while I was away and showed it to me when I came back. It was so lovely! (And I really liked to look in their flaps, seeing all the objects floating around like the toys in their kid's room:) So what do you think about that? Greetings, Rita From karlramberg at gmail.com Sun Mar 1 08:38:38 2009 From: karlramberg at gmail.com (Karl Ramberg) Date: Sun Mar 1 08:38:54 2009 Subject: [Squeakland] painting with Etoys In-Reply-To: <9451E329-5DA4-4D18-BCA3-B4C40F5B76FF@isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de> References: <9451E329-5DA4-4D18-BCA3-B4C40F5B76FF@isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de> Message-ID: <49AABA0E.9000408@gmail.com> Rita Freudenberg wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm just reading a thread on the sugar labs mailing list about paint > programs on the XO. Caroline Meeks is requesting a tool like Kid Pix > or Tux Paint on the XO, based on her experiences on a Preschool in > Boston. > > That reminds me of a discussion about lowering the threshold into > Etoys by using it as a painting tool. I think, Yoshiki answered a > question about that. I'm not sure on which mailing list this > discussion took place. But nevertheless I think it is a very > interesting thought to have an Etoys version that maybe starts with > the paint tool open? I have seen children drawing happily with Etoys > and even remember Bert doing a nice project for our kids: he just put > a holder on the screen and prepared an animation script. The kids > could draw whatever they wanted and put their drawings in the holder, > thus changing the animation. They did that on my computer, but each of > them had it's own flap, where they stored their drawings. They did > that while I was away and showed it to me when I came back. It was so > lovely! (And I really liked to look in their flaps, seeing all the > objects floating around like the toys in their kid's room:) > > So what do you think about that? I think this is a great idea. Etoys can be a environment where kids make their own applications or activity as they are called on XO. I have a partly working tool that can save pictures to the Journal. That way the rest of Etoys could be hidden so just the painting part would be in focus. This also reminds me, it would be nice to have a direct option in Holders to be a flap. Karl From patitoacevedo at hotmail.com Sun Mar 1 09:27:36 2009 From: patitoacevedo at hotmail.com (luis ACEVEDO) Date: Sun Mar 1 09:27:48 2009 Subject: [Squeakland] painting with Etoys In-Reply-To: <49AABA0E.9000408@gmail.com> References: <9451E329-5DA4-4D18-BCA3-B4C40F5B76FF@isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de> <49AABA0E.9000408@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi: = We are a group of teachers participated in a group of self formation about Etoys in South America. Teachers participating in this course are Uruguayans (xo), Argentins and other Spanish-speaking coun= tries. = = About the question, we have a problem with the versions. Originally we used the Atenex=B4s version but we try to maintain compatibility with Sque= akland for Uruguayan=B4s Teachers can use the course in their xo=B4s. I think a new version not is a good idea. Perhaps a book Morphic supports different versions (include plug-in for the browser) with a comic style pag= e and the holder, more a lot of images ready to use can be a good start. Remember in the Etoys xo there is not a administrator pictures. The tabs are a nice idea,= too. = Sorry for my basic english skills. I wait you can to understand my ideas. = Our group: http://www.irisfernandez.com.ar/squeak/ = = One example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DhgLVLiHRCy8 = cheers = Pato Acevedo _________________________________________________________________ Encuentra el auto de tus sue=F1os en MSN = http://xml.mercadolibre.cl/org-img/msnchile/autos.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://vpri.org/pipermail/squeakland/attachments/20090301/3a8a3f7d/att= achment.htm From subbukk at gmail.com Sun Mar 1 08:28:49 2009 From: subbukk at gmail.com (K. K. Subramaniam) Date: Sun Mar 1 10:53:30 2009 Subject: [Squeakland] painting with Etoys In-Reply-To: <9451E329-5DA4-4D18-BCA3-B4C40F5B76FF@isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de> References: <9451E329-5DA4-4D18-BCA3-B4C40F5B76FF@isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de> Message-ID: <200903012158.50107.subbukk@gmail.com> On Sunday 01 Mar 2009 6:49:47 pm Rita Freudenberg wrote: > That reminds me of a discussion about lowering the threshold into ? > Etoys by using it as a painting tool. I think, Yoshiki answered a ? > question about that. I'm not sure on which mailing list this ? > discussion took place. But nevertheless I think it is a very ? > interesting thought to have an Etoys version that maybe starts with ? > the paint tool open? The paint tool interface is complicated for children who are not yet functionally literate in the interface language. Artpad painter (artpad.art.com/artpad/painter) does a better job in introducing painting to young kids. BTW, painting is not required to start composing etoys. The supplies bin already has objects like Ellipse, Stars and Rectangles that can be put to good use (e.g. http://community.ofset.org/index.php/Art_et_Squeak). Subbu From ptdrumm at terra.com.br Sun Mar 1 11:28:35 2009 From: ptdrumm at terra.com.br (Paulo Drummond) Date: Sun Mar 1 11:28:46 2009 Subject: [Squeakland] painting with Etoys In-Reply-To: <200903012158.50107.subbukk@gmail.com> References: <9451E329-5DA4-4D18-BCA3-B4C40F5B76FF@isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de> <200903012158.50107.subbukk@gmail.com> Message-ID: From the time a child understands and actually use some of the functions of his/her fingers, any other (unnatural) interface will be difficult to understand, and will require a more experienced kid (or an adult) to show the first steps. Even with a real brush. Trial and error -- or discovery learning -- is one of the first things a child uses to develop his/her self-confidence. I guess Etoys palette tool does a great job for kids of a certain age, and it is certainly a first step for creating objects, no matter shape this object may have. So, yes, for a certaing age group, Etoys could well be preset to be opened with the paint tool already on. It could "invite" them to create almost immediately, just for the sake of creation (the object concept could be introduced later). For more experienced groups, just leave as it is now. my 2? On Mar 1, 2009, at 1:28 PM, K. K. Subramaniam wrote: > On Sunday 01 Mar 2009 6:49:47 pm Rita Freudenberg wrote: >> That reminds me of a discussion about lowering the threshold into >> Etoys by using it as a painting tool. I think, Yoshiki answered a >> question about that. I'm not sure on which mailing list this >> discussion took place. But nevertheless I think it is a very >> interesting thought to have an Etoys version that maybe starts with >> the paint tool open? > The paint tool interface is complicated for children who are not yet > functionally literate in the interface language. Artpad painter > (artpad.art.com/artpad/painter) does a better job in introducing > painting to > young kids. > > BTW, painting is not required to start composing etoys. The supplies > bin > already has objects like Ellipse, Stars and Rectangles that can be > put to > good use (e.g. http://community.ofset.org/index.php/Art_et_Squeak). > > Subbu > > _______________________________________________ > Squeakland mailing list > Squeakland@squeakland.org > http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland > From nicholasjbennett at hotmail.com Sun Mar 1 14:27:47 2009 From: nicholasjbennett at hotmail.com (Nicholas Bennett) Date: Sun Mar 1 15:02:59 2009 Subject: [Squeakland] painting with Etoys In-Reply-To: <9451E329-5DA4-4D18-BCA3-B4C40F5B76FF@isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de> References: <9451E329-5DA4-4D18-BCA3-B4C40F5B76FF@isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de> Message-ID: Rita, >From playing with etoy s with my kinds I think they'd love it. One thing I remember we found a little distracting was that each painted ob= ject determined it's own size from what happened to be non-transparent and = the image rendering seemed to be based on one of the corners. This meant th= at if you were trying to draw a bouncing ball you needed to put some extra = marks to 'fix the frame' in which the ball appeared or you just ended up wi= th a squirming ball sitting there. It's a good concept for kids to have to = 'get', but once they got it it became a chore to work with. I'm not sure wh= at could be a natural and/or easy way to address this. regards, Nicholas > From: rita@isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de > To: squeakland@squeakland.org > Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 14:19:47 +0100 > Subject: [Squeakland] painting with Etoys > = > Hi all, > = > I'm just reading a thread on the sugar labs mailing list about paint = > programs on the XO. Caroline Meeks is requesting a tool like Kid Pix = > or Tux Paint on the XO, based on her experiences on a Preschool in = > Boston. > = > That reminds me of a discussion about lowering the threshold into = > Etoys by using it as a painting tool. I think, Yoshiki answered a = > question about that. I'm not sure on which mailing list this = > discussion took place. But nevertheless I think it is a very = > interesting thought to have an Etoys version that maybe starts with = > the paint tool open? I have seen children drawing happily with Etoys = > and even remember Bert doing a nice project for our kids: he just put = > a holder on the screen and prepared an animation script. The kids = > could draw whatever they wanted and put their drawings in the holder, = > thus changing the animation. They did that on my computer, but each of = > them had it's own flap, where they stored their drawings. They did = > that while I was away and showed it to me when I came back. It was so = > lovely! (And I really liked to look in their flaps, seeing all the = > objects floating around like the toys in their kid's room:) > = > So what do you think about that? > = > Greetings, > Rita > = > _______________________________________________ > Squeakland mailing list > Squeakland@squeakland.org > http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail=AE is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. = http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_032009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://vpri.org/pipermail/squeakland/attachments/20090301/8122917e/att= achment.htm From hilaire at ofset.org Mon Mar 2 02:11:00 2009 From: hilaire at ofset.org (Hilaire Fernandes) Date: Mon Mar 2 02:28:22 2009 Subject: [Squeakland] painting with Etoys In-Reply-To: <200903012158.50107.subbukk@gmail.com> References: <9451E329-5DA4-4D18-BCA3-B4C40F5B76FF@isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de> <200903012158.50107.subbukk@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7ac6e0530903020211wba5aa47mf59afa093f7166f2@mail.gmail.com> 2009/3/1 K. K. Subramaniam : > BTW, painting is not required to start composing etoys. The supplies bin > already has objects like Ellipse, Stars and Rectangles that can be put to > good use (e.g. http://community.ofset.org/index.php/Art_et_Squeak). As you are referring to these resources, the following page is a better one for English speaking people: http://community.ofset.org/index.php/Category:Etoys_English From rita at isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de Mon Mar 2 02:36:48 2009 From: rita at isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (Rita Freudenberg) Date: Mon Mar 2 02:37:06 2009 Subject: [Squeakland] painting with Etoys In-Reply-To: <7ac6e0530903020211wba5aa47mf59afa093f7166f2@mail.gmail.com> References: <9451E329-5DA4-4D18-BCA3-B4C40F5B76FF@isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de> <200903012158.50107.subbukk@gmail.com> <7ac6e0530903020211wba5aa47mf59afa093f7166f2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49ABB6C0.8060909@isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de> Hilaire Fernandes wrote: > 2009/3/1 K. K. Subramaniam : > > >> BTW, painting is not required to start composing etoys. The supplies bin >> already has objects like Ellipse, Stars and Rectangles that can be put to >> good use (e.g. http://community.ofset.org/index.php/Art_et_Squeak). >> > > As you are referring to these resources, the following page is a > better one for English speaking people: > http://community.ofset.org/index.php/Category:Etoys_English > > Hilaire, this website is just amazing! We should add a link to the squeakland website http://www.squeakland.org/resources/community/ What would you call it? Can you give 1-2 sentences for the description? Greetings, Rita > _______________________________________________ > Squeakland mailing list > Squeakland@squeakland.org > http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland > -- Rita Freudenberg FIN-ISG Otto-von-Guericke-Universit?t Magdeburg http://isgwww.cs.uni-magdeburg.de/isg/rita.html From rita at isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de Mon Mar 2 04:57:26 2009 From: rita at isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (Rita Freudenberg) Date: Mon Mar 2 04:57:46 2009 Subject: [Squeakland] [Fwd: website contact] Message-ID: <49ABD7B6.9000600@isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: website contact Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 14:07:00 -0500 (EST) From: Asaf Yatskan To: squeakland staff Dear Sir, My name is Asaf. I discovered Squeak and Etoys while helping my son creating programs on the wonderful Scratch programming language. We are creating games on Scratch for about 2 years and it is fun both for me and for him Recently He asked me to learn him a more "grown up" programming language. Since he is almost 9 years old, I have several doubts regarding the programming language that suits for him. I can easily teach him the popular languages such as C++ and Java or even C or I can teach him Etoys and then Squeak which seems to be much more educational I have to admit that squeak is new to me too but from a brief review of the language it seems to be a true object oriented language that I hope lets the programmer enjoy it. Recently I discovered another interesting project which is called Alice; although Alice presents a fascinating way of programming in 3D I am not sure it is the right project to begin programming. After this long introduction I wonder if you can help with some of my doubts and question: 1. What do you think is the most suitable language for 9 years old boy (that is not an English speaker)? 2. Do you think Etoys and Squeak can provide tools for young programmer in the future? 3. I found a nice implementation of Alice in Squeak which is called Alice in Squeakland the implementation was done by Jeff Pierce although it was implemented in Squeak ver. 2.0 I could run on downloadable Squeak ver. 3.10 Are you familiar with Alice implementation on Squeak. Is the squeak still supporting it? Thank you for your time and help Asaf -- Rita Freudenberg FIN-ISG Otto-von-Guericke-Universit?t Magdeburg http://isgwww.cs.uni-magdeburg.de/isg/rita.html From subbukk at gmail.com Mon Mar 2 08:54:54 2009 From: subbukk at gmail.com (K. K. Subramaniam) Date: Mon Mar 2 08:57:55 2009 Subject: [Squeakland] [Fwd: website contact] In-Reply-To: <49ABD7B6.9000600@isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de> References: <49ABD7B6.9000600@isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de> Message-ID: <200903022224.55068.subbukk@gmail.com> On Monday 02 Mar 2009 6:27:26 pm Rita Freudenberg wrote: > 1.??????What do you think is the most suitable language for 9 years old boy > (that is not an English speaker)? Etoys is a good "programming" environment for this age group. I know quite a few non-English children who loved the ability to model real world stuff in Etoys. They tend to think of Etoys as a modeling or "play acting" environment rather than a 'programming' environment. > 2.??????Do you think Etoys and Squeak can > provide tools for young programmer in the future? It definitely introduces programming concepts to children in a gentle, unpretentious way. Subbu From yoshiki at vpri.org Mon Mar 2 10:05:07 2009 From: yoshiki at vpri.org (Yoshiki Ohshima) Date: Mon Mar 2 10:05:32 2009 Subject: [Squeakland] painting with Etoys In-Reply-To: <9451E329-5DA4-4D18-BCA3-B4C40F5B76FF@isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de> References: <9451E329-5DA4-4D18-BCA3-B4C40F5B76FF@isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de> Message-ID: At Sun, 1 Mar 2009 14:19:47 +0100, Rita Freudenberg wrote: > > Hi all, > > I'm just reading a thread on the sugar labs mailing list about paint > programs on the XO. Caroline Meeks is requesting a tool like Kid Pix > or Tux Paint on the XO, based on her experiences on a Preschool in > Boston. > > That reminds me of a discussion about lowering the threshold into > Etoys by using it as a painting tool. I think, Yoshiki answered a > question about that. I'm not sure on which mailing list this > discussion took place. But nevertheless I think it is a very > interesting thought to have an Etoys version that maybe starts with > the paint tool open? I have seen children drawing happily with Etoys > and even remember Bert doing a nice project for our kids: he just put > a holder on the screen and prepared an animation script. The kids > could draw whatever they wanted and put their drawings in the holder, > thus changing the animation. They did that on my computer, but each of > them had it's own flap, where they stored their drawings. They did > that while I was away and showed it to me when I came back. It was so > lovely! (And I really liked to look in their flaps, seeing all the > objects floating around like the toys in their kid's room:) Somehow it was hard to lookup but here it is: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/etoys/2008-November/002772.html Adding Journal support etc., and polishing it up an it could be something. However, the above test is tied to the existing paint tool and it cannot overcome the downside of it. A skelton paint widget and if rest of parts are done in Etoys scripts, then making customized versions would be much easier. Abe-san and Takashi and others used to make such bare-born versions so it might be worth to dig them up. -- Yoshiki From kim.rose at vpri.org Mon Mar 2 11:53:32 2009 From: kim.rose at vpri.org (Kim Rose) Date: Mon Mar 2 11:53:40 2009 Subject: [Squeakland] Save the Date - Squeakfest USA! Message-ID: Greetings - We are happy to announce another opportunity for a face to face gathering and sharing of experiences and materials relative to the usage of Etoys. Squeakfest USA August 10, 11 and 12th Los Angeles, CA at the Faculty Center, UCLA Campus We'll have more info on the Squeakland website shortly, but until then, please save the date! Please forward this email and share with friends and colleagues. This will be a gathering of users and practitioners of Etoys -- teachers, researchers, and developers to share and learn. Newcomers to Etoys are most welcome too! We hope to see you in Los Angeles in August! More to come... Kim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://vpri.org/pipermail/squeakland/attachments/20090302/74a96538/attachment.htm From marta at pensamentodigital.org.br Sun Mar 8 12:43:53 2009 From: marta at pensamentodigital.org.br (Marta Voelcker) Date: Sun Mar 8 13:07:34 2009 Subject: [Squeakland] hello from Porto Alegre Message-ID: <040d01c9a026$369537c0$a3bfa740$@org.br> Hello all! = Summer is gone, carnival is over, local schools and universities are finally back to activity. It is time to evolve with planning for Squeakfest Brasil. We are pleased to announce that the School of Education at UFRGS is going to host Sqeuakfest Brasil. They will let us use their facilities without charging us ( cost zero) and that will make possible to have registrations for teachers and students at a symbolic fee ( if not free). = During this first week of activities we created a local committee to plan Sqeuakfest, it is composed by reps from Cognitive Studies Lab from Psychology ( the research group working with XOs at Luciana de Abreu =96 Br= uno Sperb, teachers from the School of Education =96 Rosane Aragon and Paulo Slomp and the director from Escola de Aplica=E7=E3o (an elementary and midd= le school ran by the university) =96 Edson Lindner. Local Committee=B4s first meeting will happen this week and I would like to hear your suggestions and plans to share with them. = The idea is to have a two days conference using an auditorium at ground level and some more classrooms to hold hands on workshops with laptops. Activities conducted in the auditorium will have translation service ( English =96 Portuguese and vice versa) volunteers will help English speaki= ng people to participate in workshops conducted in the classrooms(help with translation). We assume that Spanish speakers will be ok with Portuguese ( both languages are pretty similar). = This week we will discuss about the call for presentations/workshops/activities to be conducted with or without laptops. And for that I would like your suggestions. We can make a call for presentation very open ( just explaining that laptops will be available) or we can create some types of activities=85 or focus in different audience = =96 = We plan to have at least one workshop conducted from children (from Luciana de Abreu School) to other children. = Workshops or activities could be tagged by target audience: undergrad students ( education, psychology, computer science); researchers in IT for Ed; teachers; parents and children=85 = = There is no wire less internet in those rooms, we can ask the university to install it, but is that good? Maybe without internet the audience will better keep the focus on e-toys ? = For those that would not be able to make to Porto Alegre for this first Squeakfest Brasil we will try to have on line transmission for the activities in the auditorium. = looking forward to hear your ideas, = Marta = = -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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How can I contribute the modified scripts? /Korakurider From yoshiki at vpri.org Wed Mar 25 10:40:22 2009 From: yoshiki at vpri.org (Yoshiki Ohshima) Date: Mon Apr 27 16:46:28 2009 Subject: [Squeakland] Re: [Etoys] Quick testing of Etoys on Windows7 In-Reply-To: <75eb0b0e0903250537q4b5c4827xe7a7ec0fda332303@mail.gmail.com> References: <75eb0b0e0903250537q4b5c4827xe7a7ec0fda332303@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: At Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:37:30 +0900, Korakurider wrote: > > Hi all. > As Rita is trying to run Etoys on Windows7 (discussed in squeak-dev), > I also tried it :-) > > I had to make small twaek on installer script; > It checkes windows version and change file layout and replace some > file (browser plugin). > The trick was Win7 has its own version number "6.1" that the script > was't aware of, > (Vista is 6.0). Win7 is very similar to vista, so I made the script do > same stuff for win7. > > With modified installer, Etoys is installed successfully, run without > gotchas during making security key, > run in IE8 (without protection mode though). > This is just result quick testing.,, I will test it extensively. > > How can I contribute the modified scripts? Thank you for trying this! http://svn.squeakland.org/installers/ is the repository, which I think I still have the commit right. But making an issue at http://tracker.squeakland.org/ and attach file would be appreciated! -- Yoshiki From rita at isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de Tue Mar 31 05:01:45 2009 From: rita at isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (Rita Freudenberg) Date: Mon Apr 27 16:46:34 2009 Subject: [Squeakland] [Fwd: website contact] Message-ID: <49D205DB.8060501@isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de> Hi, this question corresponds to our discussion about beeing able to deconstruct everything compared to save things from being destroyed. She refers to one of the interactive demos from the Kusasa project, which is linked on the squeakland website. Greetings, Rita -------- Original Message -------- Subject: website contact Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:19:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Avigail Snir To: squeakland staff Hi, While working with the "Fun Sun" project in the tutorial, my students lost their compass needle before any action could be taken. I suggest you lock the compass face, so it will not be picked that easily and hides the hand underneath. Also on page 21 the "next page" arrow is underneath the text and thus does not function. It is not a big thing for the advanced player, but a preventable destruction for the beginner. Thanks, Avigail -- Rita Freudenberg FIN-ISG Otto-von-Guericke-Universit?t Magdeburg http://isgwww.cs.uni-magdeburg.de/isg/rita.html From rita at isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de Tue Mar 31 23:49:22 2009 From: rita at isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (Rita Freudenberg) Date: Mon Apr 27 16:46:35 2009 Subject: [Squeakland] [Fwd: [IAEP] Count Down to FOSSVT! April 10 - 10 Days to go!] Message-ID: <49D30E42.9060207@isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de> Hi all, Sugar Labs will do a presentation on an open source conference on April = 10 and will give away USB sticks with Sugar and Etoys on it. It would be = great if some of you could test, if Etoys is running correctly on this = version before it will be given away. You can find the sources here: = http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick Thanks,. Rita -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [IAEP] Count Down to FOSSVT! April 10 - 10 Days to go! Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:58:57 -0400 From: Caroline Meeks To: IAEP SugarLabs FOSSVT is an open source conference for educators in Vermont where = Walter and I are going to present Sugar on a Stick. April 10 The good news is: I have the sticks! I have an "USB Assimilator program" I have 7 USB port SoaS1 3-23 seems to be working well. Blockers: We need a working jabber server so people can collaborate (I'll write = another email with details on what is wrong and how me might fix it.) Nice to have Can we fix Bug 645? Be nice to have a nice branded page when people open = browse I am going to buy a CD writer with lightscribe so I can also bring some = boot helpers. It would be great if someone could make me a nice design = to put on it for the boot helpers How can you help? - Test SoaS1 3-23 - Make sure your favorite program is on the image or if it isn't make = sure its working so we can add it Caroline's Todo's -Test the 7Port and the assimilator program to find out how long it will = take to burn 7 USBs -Buy a CD Writer with light scribe - What other programs should be on the SoaS we hand out? People love = Scratch - Does it work on SoaS1? -- = Caroline Meeks Solution Grove Caroline@SolutionGrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax -- = Rita Freudenberg FIN-ISG Otto-von-Guericke-Universit=E4t Magdeburg http://isgwww.cs.uni-magdeburg.de/isg/rita.html -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep