From fluxent at gmail.com Thu Jan 1 07:07:30 2009 From: fluxent at gmail.com (Bill Seitz) Date: Thu Jan 1 08:24:02 2009 Subject: [Squeakland] can EToys mime KongregateLab's "Shoot" tutorial game? Message-ID: I'd like to get my sons (age 10 and 8) programming, but the only hook that I think will get them started is the ability to make a kinda cool game. Ideally, I'd like to see a tutorial that leads them down the path of making a starter non-lame game. A specific example I've found, for Flash-based games, is at the KongregateLabs site: http://www.kongregate.com/labs Can EToys achieve the same thing? Are there any existing tutorials or projects that cover similar material? Scratch seems to have some challenges in this area: http://scratch.mit.edu/forums/viewtopic.php?id=12971 From rita at isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de Thu Jan 1 11:06:15 2009 From: rita at isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (Rita Freudenberg) Date: Fri Jan 2 03:06:43 2009 Subject: [Squeakland] can EToys mime KongregateLab's "Shoot" tutorial game? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <495D1427.2070705@isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de> Bill Seitz schrieb: > I'd like to get my sons (age 10 and 8) programming, but the only hook > that I think will get them started is the ability to make a kinda cool > game. > > Ideally, I'd like to see a tutorial that leads them down the path of > making a starter non-lame game. A specific example I've found, for > Flash-based games, is at the KongregateLabs site: > http://www.kongregate.com/labs > > Can EToys achieve the same thing? Are there any existing tutorials or > projects that cover similar material? > My students develop PacMan games, but there is no tutorial online yet. You can find an example here http://www.squeakland.org/launcher/?http://www.mttcs.org/Projekte/Squeak/material/pacman1.pr Rita > Scratch seems to have some challenges in this area: > http://scratch.mit.edu/forums/viewtopic.php?id=12971 > > _______________________________________________ > Squeakland mailing list > Squeakland@squeakland.org > http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland > From huw.softdesigns at googlemail.com Fri Jan 2 04:59:32 2009 From: huw.softdesigns at googlemail.com (Huw Lloyd) Date: Fri Jan 2 13:55:54 2009 Subject: [Squeakland] squeek and research projects in relation to educational psychology? Message-ID: <20ae433c0901020459u22bc32fek585e434f63d2d2f6@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I'm due to start undertaking a small-ish experiment project as part of a part-time Psychology degree focusing upon educational/developmental psychology. I'm wondering whether squeek has been used in this capacity (i.e. featuring in project papers etc). Thanks, Huw -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://vpri.org/pipermail/squeakland/attachments/20090102/6ee868be/att= achment.htm From socinian at gmail.com Fri Jan 2 13:58:09 2009 From: socinian at gmail.com (Darius Clarke) Date: Fri Jan 2 15:03:49 2009 Subject: [Squeakland] squeek and research projects in relation to educational psychology? In-Reply-To: <20ae433c0901020459u22bc32fek585e434f63d2d2f6@mail.gmail.com> References: <20ae433c0901020459u22bc32fek585e434f63d2d2f6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Huw, Have you tried this search in Google's Scholar search? http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=3Dsqueak+etoys&hl=3Den&lr=3D&btnG=3DSea= rch I found a few there. Cheers, Darius ________________________ On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 4:59 AM, Huw Lloyd w= rote: > Hi, > > I'm due to start undertaking a small-ish experiment project as part of a > part-time Psychology degree focusing upon educational/developmental > psychology. I'm wondering whether squeek has been used in this capacity > (i.e. featuring in project papers etc). > > Thanks, > Huw > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Squeakland mailing list > Squeakland@squeakland.org > http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://vpri.org/pipermail/squeakland/attachments/20090102/5d450c7f/att= achment.htm From huw.softdesigns at googlemail.com Sun Jan 4 12:59:46 2009 From: huw.softdesigns at googlemail.com (Huw Lloyd) Date: Sun Jan 4 13:18:48 2009 Subject: [Squeakland] squeek and research projects in relation to educational psychology? In-Reply-To: References: <20ae433c0901020459u22bc32fek585e434f63d2d2f6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20ae433c0901041259s7d5246eco1e48932d93d63f3a@mail.gmail.com> Thanks Darius. How about forums for discussing learning, environments and methods? e.g. Vygotsky, Dewey, Piaget, Polya, Finkel, Whitehead ... ? I hope to take a look at sqeuak/sqeuakland over the next few weeks, and possibly weave this into a useful project. Huw 2009/1/2 Darius Clarke > Hi Huw, > Have you tried this search in Google's Scholar search? > > http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=3Dsqueak+etoys&hl=3Den&lr=3D&btnG=3DS= earch > > I found a few there. > > Cheers, > Darius > ________________________ > > On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 4:59 AM, Huw Lloyd wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I'm due to start undertaking a small-ish experiment project as part of a >> part-time Psychology degree focusing upon educational/developmental >> psychology. I'm wondering whether squeek has been used in this capacity >> (i.e. featuring in project papers etc). >> >> Thanks, >> Huw >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Squeakland mailing list >> Squeakland@squeakland.org >> http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://vpri.org/pipermail/squeakland/attachments/20090104/8c8bb348/att= achment.htm From timothy at immuexa.com Tue Jan 6 06:03:55 2009 From: timothy at immuexa.com (Timothy Falconer) Date: Tue Jan 6 06:42:53 2009 Subject: [Squeakland] can EToys mime KongregateLab's "Shoot" tutorial game? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <70FA047E-7EB0-452E-896C-5545B5629980@immuexa.com> Bill, Have a look at my Waveplace tutorials: http://waveplace.com/resources/tutorials/ The emphasis is on storytelling, but game-like interactions are built along the way. Tim -- Timothy Falconer Immuexa Corporation http://immuexa.com 610-797-3100 On Jan 1, 2009, at 10:07 AM, Bill Seitz wrote: > I'd like to get my sons (age 10 and 8) programming, but the only hook > that I think will get them started is the ability to make a kinda cool > game. > > Ideally, I'd like to see a tutorial that leads them down the path of > making a starter non-lame game. A specific example I've found, for > Flash-based games, is at the KongregateLabs site: > http://www.kongregate.com/labs > > Can EToys achieve the same thing? Are there any existing tutorials or > projects that cover similar material? > > Scratch seems to have some challenges in this area: > http://scratch.mit.edu/forums/viewtopic.php?id=12971 > > _______________________________________________ > Squeakland mailing list > Squeakland@squeakland.org > http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland From hilaire at ofset.org Sat Jan 10 04:40:01 2009 From: hilaire at ofset.org (Hilaire Fernandes) Date: Sat Jan 10 06:35:02 2009 Subject: [Squeakland] Fun with Smalltalk at hight school Message-ID: <7ac6e0530901100440y2a360213ye83e6539fd59a766@mail.gmail.com> Computer are good at dynamic stuff, I love to mix interactive geometry and analytic calculus. With DrGeoII it is becoming so much fun. I would have love to play with that at high school. See this post, in French only, but if a brave soul can translate it in English I will be great. http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire/index.php?post/script-drgeo Hilaire -- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire From karlramberg at gmail.com Sat Jan 10 05:09:00 2009 From: karlramberg at gmail.com (Karl Ramberg) Date: Sat Jan 10 06:35:02 2009 Subject: [Squeakland] Re: [Etoys] Fun with Smalltalk at hight school In-Reply-To: <7ac6e0530901100440y2a360213ye83e6539fd59a766@mail.gmail.com> References: <7ac6e0530901100440y2a360213ye83e6539fd59a766@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49689DEC.5070401@gmail.com> Hilaire Fernandes wrote: > Computer are good at dynamic stuff, I love to mix interactive geometry > and analytic calculus. With DrGeoII it is becoming so much fun. 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E.g. we've saved a proj and now want to use gmail to attach/send it. thanks, Randy From bert at freudenbergs.de Sun Jan 18 06:16:53 2009 From: bert at freudenbergs.de (Bert Freudenberg) Date: Sun Jan 18 14:25:45 2009 Subject: [Squeakland] accessing projects on OLPC In-Reply-To: <65EB1DE6-8FB5-41E4-B364-5F66EC695008@indiana.edu> References: <65EB1DE6-8FB5-41E4-B364-5F66EC695008@indiana.edu> Message-ID: <345C33C7-BD28-43D6-81CA-A12565F5A1CE@freudenbergs.de> On 18.01.2009, at 02:29, Randy Heiland wrote: > A general question about the file system on the OLPC... where are > etoys projects stored? E.g. we've saved a proj and now want to use > gmail to attach/send it. They are properly stored in the Sugar Journal. Gmail's attachment upload button should bring up the Journal object chooser under Sugar instead of a file system browser as on other platforms. - Bert - From kim.rose at vpri.org Tue Jan 20 13:11:32 2009 From: kim.rose at vpri.org (Kim Rose) Date: Tue Jan 20 13:27:19 2009 Subject: [Squeakland] ANN: Squeakland Foundation Inc. Message-ID: Hello everyone, We're excited to announce the formation of Squeakland Foundation Inc, a non-profit organization that will take over from Viewpoints Research as the guardians of Squeak Etoys. Our new board of directors held its first meeting last Thursday, where we approved the name, elected our officers, and made plans for this year's Squeakfest events. The new board includes: Tim Falconer Kim Rose Walter Bender Rita Freudenberg Kathleen Harness Marta Voelcker Scott Wallace Yoshiki Ohshima Milan Zimmerman These nine people are just the start, of course. Please help us in our mission to "build community and encourage deep learning worldwide by promoting, supporting, and improving Squeak Etoys and related educational media." To read more about Squeakland Foundation, read today's newsletter: http://squeakland.org/news/newsletter/web.jsp?id=9 You can subscribe to our quarterly newsletter here: http://squeakland.org/subscribe/ Take care, Kim From dfarning at sugarlabs.org Sun Jan 25 09:05:11 2009 From: dfarning at sugarlabs.org (David Farning) Date: Sun Jan 25 22:09:16 2009 Subject: [Squeakland] Squeak in Debian and Fedora Message-ID: I was wonder if it would be worth while for squeakland to start pushing etoys through the standard linux distributions. Due to the recent downsizing at OLPC, OLPC will no longer be creating a custom XOos. Instead, XOos will be a near standard Fedora distribution, shipped by Fedora, running sugar as the desktop. As such we would like to see etoys distributed as standard rpms and debs. I think most of the hard work is done. All of the code origin is known. Both Debian and Fedora have agreed in theory to package self compiling VMs. Thanks david From rita at isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de Fri Jan 30 04:00:51 2009 From: rita at isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (Rita Freudenberg) Date: Fri Jan 30 06:54:36 2009 Subject: [Squeakland] Squeak in Debian and Fedora In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4982EBF3.2010105@isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de> David Farning wrote: > I was wonder if it would be worth while for squeakland to start > pushing etoys through the standard linux distributions. > I would definitely encourage that. I'm not the one to answer the questions what amount of work it would take to do so, but you are perfectly right with what you are saying about the future of OLPC. I would like to have a list of the distributions we would like/should support so that we can figure out our current status regarding it. So we have Debian and Fedora, for the start? About Fedora we are in contact with Gavin Romig-Koch. What else would you recommend? Best Regards, Rita > Due to the recent downsizing at OLPC, OLPC will no longer be creating > a custom XOos. Instead, XOos will be a near standard Fedora > distribution, shipped by Fedora, running sugar as the desktop. As > such we would like to see etoys distributed as standard rpms and debs. > > I think most of the hard work is done. All of the code origin is > known. Both Debian and Fedora have agreed in theory to package self > compiling VMs. > > Thanks > david > > _______________________________________________ > Squeakland mailing list > Squeakland@squeakland.org > http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland > From jredrejo at gmail.com Sat Jan 31 02:16:59 2009 From: jredrejo at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Jos=C3=A9_Luis_Redrejo?=) Date: Sat Jan 31 14:45:15 2009 Subject: [Squeakland] Squeak in Debian and Fedora In-Reply-To: <4982EBF3.2010105@isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de> References: <4982EBF3.2010105@isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de> Message-ID: <8eb28a500901310216r6e15b71dj4c448baa45632756@mail.gmail.com> MjAwOS8xLzMwIFJpdGEgRnJldWRlbmJlcmcgPHJpdGFAaXNnLmNzLnVuaS1tYWdkZWJ1cmcuZGU+ Cgo+IERhdmlkIEZhcm5pbmcgd3JvdGU6Cj4KPj4gSSB3YXMgd29uZGVyIGlmIGl0IHdvdWxkIGJl IHdvcnRoIHdoaWxlIGZvciBzcXVlYWtsYW5kIHRvIHN0YXJ0Cj4+IHB1c2hpbmcgZXRveXMgdGhy b3VnaCB0aGUgc3RhbmRhcmQgbGludXggZGlzdHJpYnV0aW9ucy4KPj4KPj4KPiBJIHdvdWxkIGRl ZmluaXRlbHkgZW5jb3VyYWdlIHRoYXQuIEknbSBub3QgdGhlIG9uZSB0byBhbnN3ZXIgdGhlIHF1 ZXN0aW9ucwo+IHdoYXQgYW1vdW50IG9mIHdvcmsgaXQgd291bGQgdGFrZSB0byBkbyBzbywgYnV0 IHlvdSBhcmUgcGVyZmVjdGx5IHJpZ2h0IHdpdGgKPiB3aGF0IHlvdSBhcmUgc2F5aW5nIGFib3V0 IHRoZSBmdXR1cmUgb2YgT0xQQy4gSSB3b3VsZCBsaWtlIHRvIGhhdmUgYSBsaXN0IG9mCj4gdGhl IGRpc3RyaWJ1dGlvbnMgd2Ugd291bGQgbGlrZS9zaG91bGQgc3VwcG9ydCBzbyB0aGF0IHdlIGNh biBmaWd1cmUgb3V0IG91cgo+IGN1cnJlbnQgc3RhdHVzIHJlZ2FyZGluZyBpdC4gU28gd2UgaGF2 ZSBEZWJpYW4gYW5kIEZlZG9yYSwgZm9yIHRoZSBzdGFydD8KPiBBYm91dCBGZWRvcmEgd2UgYXJl IGluIGNvbnRhY3Qgd2l0aCBHYXZpbiBSb21pZy1Lb2NoLgo+IFdoYXQgZWxzZSB3b3VsZCB5b3Ug cmVjb21tZW5kPwo+Cj4gQmVzdCBSZWdhcmRzLAo+IFJpdGEKPgo+ICBEdWUgdG8gdGhlIHJlY2Vu dCBkb3duc2l6aW5nIGF0IE9MUEMsIE9MUEMgd2lsbCBubyBsb25nZXIgYmUgY3JlYXRpbmcKPj4g YSBjdXN0b20gWE9vcy4gIEluc3RlYWQsIFhPb3Mgd2lsbCBiZSBhIG5lYXIgc3RhbmRhcmQgRmVk b3JhCj4+IGRpc3RyaWJ1dGlvbiwgc2hpcHBlZCBieSBGZWRvcmEsIHJ1bm5pbmcgc3VnYXIgYXMg dGhlIGRlc2t0b3AuICBBcwo+PiBzdWNoIHdlIHdvdWxkIGxpa2UgdG8gc2VlIGV0b3lzIGRpc3Ry aWJ1dGVkIGFzIHN0YW5kYXJkIHJwbXMgYW5kIGRlYnMuCj4+Cj4+IEkgdGhpbmsgbW9zdCBvZiB0 aGUgaGFyZCB3b3JrIGlzIGRvbmUuICBBbGwgb2YgdGhlIGNvZGUgb3JpZ2luIGlzCj4+IGtub3du LiAgQm90aCBEZWJpYW4gYW5kIEZlZG9yYSBoYXZlIGFncmVlZCBpbiB0aGVvcnkgdG8gcGFja2Fn ZSBzZWxmCj4+IGNvbXBpbGluZyBWTXMuCj4+Cj4+IFRoYW5rcwo+PiBkYXZpZAo+Pgo+CgpEZWJp YW4gaXMgYWxyZWFkeSBiZWVuIGNvdmVyZWQ6CgpodHRwOi8vcGFja2FnZXMuZGViaWFuLm9yZy9s ZW5ueS9ldG95cwpodHRwOi8vcGFja2FnZXMuZGViaWFuLm9yZy9sZW5ueS9zcXVlYWstdm0KCndp dGggbWFueSBwcm9ibGVtcywgYnV0IHRoZSBwYWNrYWdlIGhhcyBiZWVuIGFjY2VwdGVkIGJ5IG5v dy4gQW55d2F5CnRoZXJlJ3JlIHN0aWxsIHNvbWUgbGljZW5zaW5nIHByb2JsZW1zIHRoYXQga2Vl cCBldG95cyBpbiBub24tZnJlZSwgYW5kIG1hbnkKdGVjaG5pY2FsIHByb2JsZW1zIHdpdGggdGhl IG5vbiBpMzg2IHBsYXRmb3JtcyBpbiB0aGUgdm0sIHNwZWNpYWxseSBmb3IKYW1kNjQgdGhhdCdz IGJlZW4gd2lkZWx5IHVzZWQgYW5kIGhhcyBzb21lIGltcG9ydGFudCBidWdzLgoKUmVnYXJkcwpK b3PDqSBMLgotLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLSBuZXh0IHBhcnQgLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0KQW4gSFRNTCBh dHRhY2htZW50IHdhcyBzY3J1YmJlZC4uLgpVUkw6IGh0dHA6Ly92cHJpLm9yZy9waXBlcm1haWwv c3F1ZWFrbGFuZC9hdHRhY2htZW50cy8yMDA5MDEzMS81MjViNzljYy9hdHRhY2htZW50Lmh0bQo=